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OdgovorObjavljeno: Po Jan 11, 2010 19:49 
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Citiram:
tonek, vsak predvaja, toda gornji član tega ne zmore razumeti.
Je pač tako.
Malo pojasni zadeve. Kaj ne razumem?

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Samsung UE40ES6710 Smart TV
PHILIPS DTR3442B DVB-T2
Telemach DVB-C


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OdgovorObjavljeno: Po Jan 11, 2010 20:14 
Citiram:
Because Xtreamer doesn't support watching direct HTTP streams (like Internet radio)
I choose only available method through build-in UPnP client. Because of this I
modified UPnP server ushare on Xtreamer itself (I recompile it). I add support for
reading M3U playlist files. All channels inside it shows in new folder under
UPnP menu on Xtreamer.
BTW: I added support for playing movie from splitted RAR file too.
And now how the whole thing works: Installation replaces original ushare UPnP
server with this new one modified by me. It also starts ushare program as daemon.
When the user like to watch IPTV just goes to UPnP menu and navigate to a folder
with TV channels. When he selects one channel the UPnP client on Xtreamer require
one HTTP stream which points to udpxy program. udpxy gets multicast address too and
registers on this address and sends back the video stream which is shown on TV.

The whole concept works and we have a lot of satisfied users. This my package
runs on other Realtek based players too (PlayOnHD, ...).
BTW: PlayOnHD will probably include this my package on theirs firmware.
That's why Xtreamer must have something better.

Whole concept has some limitations too...
The channel can only be changed next/previous. No random change.
The channel switch time is at least 5-6 seconds, which is way to much for
everyday usage.

Because modems from IPS have different network for Internet and IPTV the Xtreamer
can't be accesed from local network when is used for IPTV. That's why I add one
more script which enables ethernet when WiFi is used. Then WiFi is used for
local access, ethernet for IPTV.

So, what we (you) should do to be better?

The channel changing must be done like on TV. If user press random number the
channel should change to that number. In the case of two number channels is
should collect two numbers for small periode of time and then change. Like
watching ordinary TV.

The time between changing channels must be much lower. At least 2 (maybe 3)
seconds.

There should be some sort of EPG - Electronic program guide. The data could
be scraped from web pages and transform in required format. Maybe throug PHP
or something like that so users can modify according to their needs.

Maybe a recording solution also - PVR. I already made one prototype in PHP as
web page and a daemon in C programing language.


So, Xtreamer must support watching direct HTTP streams - unicast or maybe
multicast and channels should be read from M3U. This is not useful only for
IPTV but it can also be used for other purposes.

I know that you can't make STB like device but all what users would like is to
watch TV with random selection and fast change. I think this would make
Xtreamer much much more interesting device. The second thing is EPG.
If this two things works reasonly well then a lot of people will buy this
player because they can watch TV and movies with one device and one remote.

How can all this be tested without REAL IPTV?

Because at home I'm not a IPTV subscriber (SAT TV fan) I was using VLC
(http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) for this because it can stream unicast and
multicast streams.

Installation files are here:
http://drop.io/Xtreamer_iptv/asset/xtre ... -0-4-1-zip

Archive must be unpacked to a Xtreamer on internal HDD or external HDD or USB stick.
You got folder iptv_install. Then open web browser (Opera, Internet Explorer, ..) and
navigate to this folder iptv_install. Then click on a script fakeshell2.php.
You get new window. Top left click on INSTALL_ALL and press Enter. After a while
everything is copied to flash. Maybe one reboot of Xtreamer can help.

ushare.conf file has one additional line USHARE_IPTV_LIST which has link to
m3u playlist file.

In VLC just open one movie file and set stream options. Then opens UPnP
on Xtreamer and select local_pc and then channel
"2 - VLC local PC through udpxy".


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OdgovorObjavljeno: Po Jan 11, 2010 22:00 
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Jaz o angleščini nimam pojma. Vseeno hvala za trud.

P.S.: Ne vem pa, kam je izginil tvoj odgovor na moj post:
Citiram:
Citiram:
Kateri predvajalnik ranga Xtreamer pa sploh predvaja stream OGG?
:shock: :shock: :shock:

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WaveFrontier T90
Samsung UE40ES6710 Smart TV
PHILIPS DTR3442B DVB-T2
Telemach DVB-C


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OdgovorObjavljeno: To Jan 12, 2010 16:13 
Citiram:
Rarov ne pozna.
Gledanje zararanih media datotek.
Preko upnp

Xtreamer_rar_splitted_upnp_001.zip

http://drop.io/Xtreamer_iptv

Tu je tudi
Xtreamer_disk_spindown.zip

Za tiste, ki imajo HDisk.


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OdgovorObjavljeno: Ne Jan 17, 2010 23:40 
Uradna najava večjih spremeb fw, zdaj ko je realtek dal nove podatke o čipu.

Gre za zadevo, ki bo zahtevala nekaj tednov. Obljubljajo pa bete za neučakane.

Kot je zgoraj razvidno, bodo upoštevali tudi slo želje za izboljšanje/pohitrenje
upnp in podpora web -direktne HTTP streame (..tudi za pls, m3u radije).
Ă


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OdgovorObjavljeno: Po Jan 18, 2010 11:47 
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Pridružen: Pe Okt 21, 2005 11:39
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Kaj pa .ogg stream? :oops: :roll:

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WaveFrontier T90
Samsung UE40ES6710 Smart TV
PHILIPS DTR3442B DVB-T2
Telemach DVB-C


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OdgovorObjavljeno: Po Jan 18, 2010 15:01 
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Zadnjič spremenil taburet, dne Ne Mar 14, 2010 22:33, skupaj popravljeno 1 krat.

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 Naslov prispevka: Re: z
OdgovorObjavljeno: To Jan 19, 2010 14:59 
Citiram:
Bo drug let Božiček p`rnesu. :wink:
Novi Software Development Kit (SDK) omogoča hitrejše sofwersko
prilagajanje. ogg stream pa že zdaj podpira, samo bbenči noče tega
razumeti, ker so ba slo tech baje rekli, da ne podpira.


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OdgovorObjavljeno: To Jan 19, 2010 16:00 
Odsoten
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Pridružen: Pe Okt 21, 2005 11:39
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Citiram:
Še enkrat sem si prebral specifikacije , pa zgleda, da ogg stream ne podpira.
Med navedeno podporo audio kodekov je omenjen tudi ogg, pri stream formatih sta pa le RTSP in FLV ...
Citiram:
Camaro, ogg podpira, kot avdio (glasbeno) datoteko in kot avdio pr videu.
>>>>probal sem ogg vmixati nekemu aviju in špila.

Ă

_________________
WaveFrontier T90
Samsung UE40ES6710 Smart TV
PHILIPS DTR3442B DVB-T2
Telemach DVB-C


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OdgovorObjavljeno: To Jan 19, 2010 20:07 
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Zadnjič spremenil taburet, dne Ne Mar 14, 2010 22:32, skupaj popravljeno 1 krat.

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